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		<title>By: watching words move &#124; Logo Design Love</title>
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		<dc:creator>watching words move &#124; Logo Design Love</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Dec 2011 12:18:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] brief post mentioned the 1962 experimental type booklet watching words move, by Ivan Chermayeff, Tom Geismar, and Robert Brownjohn. It was a new one for me, so I Googled it, and found these [...]</description>
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<p>[...] brief post mentioned the 1962 experimental type booklet watching words move, by Ivan Chermayeff, Tom Geismar, and Robert Brownjohn. It was a new one for me, so I Googled it, and found these [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Time Warner logo &#124; Logo Design Love</title>
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		<dc:creator>Time Warner logo &#124; Logo Design Love</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jun 2011 18:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] by Steff Geissbuhler in 1989 when working at Chermayeff &amp; Geismar. Steff is now part of C&amp;G [...]</description>
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<p>[...] by Steff Geissbuhler in 1989 when working at Chermayeff &amp; Geismar. Steff is now part of C&amp;G [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The world&#8217;s best logo designers? &#124; David Airey, graphic designer</title>
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		<dc:creator>The world&#8217;s best logo designers? &#124; David Airey, graphic designer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2010 10:21:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of the most notable graphic designers in history. Here follows iconic names such as Herb Lubalin, Ivan Chermayeff and Tom Geismar, along with some examples of their logo designs and a brief biographical [...]</description>
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<p>[...] of the most notable graphic designers in history. Here follows iconic names such as Herb Lubalin, Ivan Chermayeff and Tom Geismar, along with some examples of their logo designs and a brief biographical [...]</p>
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		<title>By: David Airey</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Airey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2010 09:13:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good question, Alan. It&#039;d be great to have an insight into Sagi Haviv&#039;s career path, and how he made it to the current partnership.

Hi Mark. I wasn&#039;t aware of those facts about the Burlington logo and World Check logo. Thanks for sharing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good question, Alan. It&#8217;d be great to have an insight into Sagi Haviv&#8217;s career path, and how he made it to the current partnership.</p>
<p>Hi Mark. I wasn&#8217;t aware of those facts about the Burlington logo and World Check logo. Thanks for sharing.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Ackley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Ackley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 18:28:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two points about some of the comments I have just read can be made. Great designers are called so when important work is accomplished by intelligent minds. Every great designer has to be a great thinker as well. You can also include the success some of our best designers - and our most famous - is a result of their ability to communicate well in person and on paper. Don&#039;t underestimate the value of being able to learn about the client&#039;s needs. Tom Geismar is an incredible communicator in person. He is a great student as well. Paul Rand had a unique way of managing egocentric clients by becoming egocentric himself - when it was necessary to get the project done. Over the years I have seen some really sumptuous graphic work but have been able to remark only about its standalone beauty. I have no idea about whether a symbol satisfied the design requirement or pleased the end client. Successful designers have to be more than good mark-makers.

The other comment - There are many logos that have more than one version. Burlington&#039;s logo showed fabric lines in their mark and used varying numbers of threads based on the final size and implied viewing distance. Another mark that I worked on with Alvin Eisenman while a student at Yale was the World Check symbol fro the World Bank. It was essentially a circle with a checkmark inside. The circle had to be modified into a non-circle because when the checkmark was inserted an optical illusion distorted it. It had to be changed to LOOK like a circle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two points about some of the comments I have just read can be made. Great designers are called so when important work is accomplished by intelligent minds. Every great designer has to be a great thinker as well. You can also include the success some of our best designers &#8211; and our most famous &#8211; is a result of their ability to communicate well in person and on paper. Don&#8217;t underestimate the value of being able to learn about the client&#8217;s needs. Tom Geismar is an incredible communicator in person. He is a great student as well. Paul Rand had a unique way of managing egocentric clients by becoming egocentric himself &#8211; when it was necessary to get the project done. Over the years I have seen some really sumptuous graphic work but have been able to remark only about its standalone beauty. I have no idea about whether a symbol satisfied the design requirement or pleased the end client. Successful designers have to be more than good mark-makers.</p>
<p>The other comment &#8211; There are many logos that have more than one version. Burlington&#8217;s logo showed fabric lines in their mark and used varying numbers of threads based on the final size and implied viewing distance. Another mark that I worked on with Alvin Eisenman while a student at Yale was the World Check symbol fro the World Bank. It was essentially a circle with a checkmark inside. The circle had to be modified into a non-circle because when the checkmark was inserted an optical illusion distorted it. It had to be changed to LOOK like a circle.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Turing</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Turing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 15:38:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So.. how does a 34 year old designer, 5 years out of school, 5 years at the same firm, become a partner at said powerhouse identity shop, joining only 2 other partners, who happen to be the founders themselves, ahead of any other employees, who&#039;ve been with the firm for ages!?

Honestly curious—I know there&#039;s a rational explanation here somewhere. Is it to branch out to younger clients? Is he their &quot;internets&quot; guy? I&#039;m all for young go-getters, but on paper and in press, this reads rather bizarrely.

Ok, no more coffee for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So.. how does a 34 year old designer, 5 years out of school, 5 years at the same firm, become a partner at said powerhouse identity shop, joining only 2 other partners, who happen to be the founders themselves, ahead of any other employees, who&#8217;ve been with the firm for ages!?</p>
<p>Honestly curious—I know there&#8217;s a rational explanation here somewhere. Is it to branch out to younger clients? Is he their &#8220;internets&#8221; guy? I&#8217;m all for young go-getters, but on paper and in press, this reads rather bizarrely.</p>
<p>Ok, no more coffee for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Dominic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dominic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 08:10:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got the book, matching the logo-video. Personally, I am more and more going to this extreme iconic and grapical way of logo design.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got the book, matching the logo-video. Personally, I am more and more going to this extreme iconic and grapical way of logo design.</p>
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		<title>By: Logo Design Love &#8211; Interview with Tom Geismar</title>
		<link>http://www.logodesignlove.com/all-about-chermayeff-and-geismar/comment-page-1#comment-9760</link>
		<dc:creator>Logo Design Love &#8211; Interview with Tom Geismar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 22:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] reading on Chermayeff &amp; Geismar can be done on this article from Logo Design Love and this article from AIGA.  AIGAInterviewLogo Design LoveTom Geismar      0 [...]</description>
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<p>[...] reading on Chermayeff &amp; Geismar can be done on this article from Logo Design Love and this article from AIGA.  AIGAInterviewLogo Design LoveTom Geismar      0 [...]</p>
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		<title>By: pat taylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>pat taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I heard these two a couple of times.
They are still two creative people, huge in our profession.
May they live and work forever!    P@</description>
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They are still two creative people, huge in our profession.<br />
May they live and work forever!    P@</p>
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		<title>By: Ask Tom Geismar &#124; Logo Design Love</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ask Tom Geismar &#124; Logo Design Love</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] All about Chermayeff &amp; Geismar [...]</description>
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