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		<title>By: Barbara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barbara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 04:24:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree completely! 

And when the &quot;so called&quot; prize for these logo contests frequently runs between $200 to $500 for the most, the client is not served well in getting a logo that best serves their present and future needs. In other words, they get what they paid for, and that is  frequently not much. 

If I was spending all that money on the image of my company, I&#039;d want a designer to spend more then just a few hours working on my business brand. To get a custom logo that makes you unique in the field of all your competitors, I want to pay my designer enough money to spend the time to research those competitors; to raise my company to the top of the consumer list.

If the designers are spending that time to do the research, then they are not getting paid ... pennies on the hours.

To the contest holders: You get what you pay for.

To the designers: don&#039;t sell you business skills and education short.

To both: Give design the respect it deserves! Many times it can make or brake a new business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree completely! </p>
<p>And when the &#8220;so called&#8221; prize for these logo contests frequently runs between $200 to $500 for the most, the client is not served well in getting a logo that best serves their present and future needs. In other words, they get what they paid for, and that is  frequently not much. </p>
<p>If I was spending all that money on the image of my company, I&#8217;d want a designer to spend more then just a few hours working on my business brand. To get a custom logo that makes you unique in the field of all your competitors, I want to pay my designer enough money to spend the time to research those competitors; to raise my company to the top of the consumer list.</p>
<p>If the designers are spending that time to do the research, then they are not getting paid &#8230; pennies on the hours.</p>
<p>To the contest holders: You get what you pay for.</p>
<p>To the designers: don&#8217;t sell you business skills and education short.</p>
<p>To both: Give design the respect it deserves! Many times it can make or brake a new business.</p>
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		<title>By: Pro e contro del lavoro speculativo &#124; Tiragraffi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pro e contro del lavoro speculativo &#124; Tiragraffi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 07:29:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] David Airey Logo design contests are bad for business The reality of logo design contests [...]</description>
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		<title>By: contester</title>
		<link>http://www.logodesignlove.com/logo-design-contests/comment-page-2#comment-8228</link>
		<dc:creator>contester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 06:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The same absolutely useless discussion again. Design contests are great if you know what you are doing (as an entrant or contest holder).</description>
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		<title>By: Troy James Sobotka (sobotka) 's status on Saturday, 08-Aug-09 22:16:35 UTC - Identi.ca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Troy James Sobotka (sobotka) 's status on Saturday, 08-Aug-09 22:16:35 UTC - Identi.ca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 22:16:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Design for small business &#124; NetraChetty &#124; graphic designer + photographer [babies, children &#38; families] Sydney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Design for small business &#124; NetraChetty &#124; graphic designer + photographer [babies, children &#38; families] Sydney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 12:31:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &amp; identity. There is no need for me to go over the issue when it has been discussed thoroughly here, and here and here and a thousand other sites online. If you dont believe me - just google it! So [...]</description>
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<p>[...] &amp; identity. There is no need for me to go over the issue when it has been discussed thoroughly here, and here and here and a thousand other sites online. If you dont believe me &#8211; just google it! So [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Logo design contests are bad for business &#124; David Airey, graphic designer</title>
		<link>http://www.logodesignlove.com/logo-design-contests/comment-page-2#comment-7029</link>
		<dc:creator>Logo design contests are bad for business &#124; David Airey, graphic designer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 12:26:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The reality of logo design contests, on Logo Design Love [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Developing a Web App on a Shoestring Budget &#187; Lone Gunman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Developing a Web App on a Shoestring Budget &#187; Lone Gunman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 09:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in the guide, but it&#8217;s worth doing your own research first, too. I say this mainly because design contests are quite a contentious issue.   Permalink&#124;Comments RSS Feed - Post a comment&#124;Trackback [...]</description>
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<p>[...] in the guide, but it&#8217;s worth doing your own research first, too. I say this mainly because design contests are quite a contentious issue.   Permalink|Comments RSS Feed &#8211; Post a comment|Trackback [...]</p>
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		<title>By: David Airey</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Airey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 06:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Youssef,

What kind of situation is similar to spec, but not? Curious to know, so by all means, reply here or send an email. Cheers.

Trish,

Thanks again for your very valid pointers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Youssef,</p>
<p>What kind of situation is similar to spec, but not? Curious to know, so by all means, reply here or send an email. Cheers.</p>
<p>Trish,</p>
<p>Thanks again for your very valid pointers.</p>
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		<title>By: Youssef Sarhan</title>
		<link>http://www.logodesignlove.com/logo-design-contests/comment-page-2#comment-6545</link>
		<dc:creator>Youssef Sarhan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 21:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think anyone who is serious about what they do and are honestly passionate about it; they will not enter nor entertain these contests, spec work results it terrible clients, it happens in the studio environments too, which is a shame.

It&#039;s not a good practice, it depreciates what you do, some call that elitist but it&#039;s not, there are so many comparables to other industries where spec work would never ever happen... like in a restaurant for instance.

Steve said that they so often end up picking crap designs, I have first hand experience with this, where I felt undercut and a bit hard-done by, but it was a momentary reaction. It wasn&#039;t spec work as such, it was different, but it was a similar situation. The work they picked was not the best they were offered. You seem pretty active on anti-spec work David, which I commend you for, If you&#039;re interested David I can fill you on my story more via email.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think anyone who is serious about what they do and are honestly passionate about it; they will not enter nor entertain these contests, spec work results it terrible clients, it happens in the studio environments too, which is a shame.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not a good practice, it depreciates what you do, some call that elitist but it&#8217;s not, there are so many comparables to other industries where spec work would never ever happen&#8230; like in a restaurant for instance.</p>
<p>Steve said that they so often end up picking crap designs, I have first hand experience with this, where I felt undercut and a bit hard-done by, but it was a momentary reaction. It wasn&#8217;t spec work as such, it was different, but it was a similar situation. The work they picked was not the best they were offered. You seem pretty active on anti-spec work David, which I commend you for, If you&#8217;re interested David I can fill you on my story more via email.</p>
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		<title>By: Brand Building or Brand Breaking? &#171; The Contrabrand</title>
		<link>http://www.logodesignlove.com/logo-design-contests/comment-page-2#comment-6397</link>
		<dc:creator>Brand Building or Brand Breaking? &#171; The Contrabrand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 03:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] community stand to lose. I don’t need to re-hash the arguments. They’ve been made here and here and here. Indeed, professional design associations universally decry the practice of spec work as [...]</description>
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<p>[...] community stand to lose. I don’t need to re-hash the arguments. They’ve been made here and here and here. Indeed, professional design associations universally decry the practice of spec work as [...]</p>
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