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		<title>By: charlie boy</title>
		<link>http://www.logodesignlove.com/stanmore-implants-brand-identity/comment-page-1#comment-12432</link>
		<dc:creator>charlie boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Apr 2010 17:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say that the logo seems to be very bold, and successful when placed on its product as it is shown in the second photo. The logo by itself is a bit awkward because of the &quot;s&quot; is so dominant over the secondary type. Was this intentional? maybe for branding/marketing purposes of pushing the &quot;s&quot;? Its very obvious that balance was not practice here. 


my first critique post as a new college grad :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say that the logo seems to be very bold, and successful when placed on its product as it is shown in the second photo. The logo by itself is a bit awkward because of the &#8220;s&#8221; is so dominant over the secondary type. Was this intentional? maybe for branding/marketing purposes of pushing the &#8220;s&#8221;? Its very obvious that balance was not practice here. </p>
<p>my first critique post as a new college grad :)</p>
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		<title>By: LogoForge</title>
		<link>http://www.logodesignlove.com/stanmore-implants-brand-identity/comment-page-1#comment-12404</link>
		<dc:creator>LogoForge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Mar 2010 21:23:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris,

&gt;&gt;Maybe I’m wrong. I hope so. But your comment seems to imply that people here aren’t considering the client or the audience before making their points. That seems like an unfair assumption. 

I don&#039;t know if people here have considered the client or the audience before making their points or not, but do you, Chris, mean to imply that any of us has given them as much consideration as Pentagram has? I&#039;d be willing to bet that Pentragram spent a bit more time thinking about this design than your or I, and in that time they probably found a legitimate reason to make the design look the way it does. I believe the &#039;S&#039; was made to resemble some specific object, as a few other commentors have suggested. And notice how the horizontal join is parallel to the terminals: I don&#039;t think that&#039;s coincidental. Is it a beautiful logo? Not particularly. Could it be improved? Probably. But I think anyone who gave it more than twenty seconds of consideration would hesitate to suggest that it&#039;s amateurish or mistaken.

&gt;&gt;Besides, you could say all of that any time a designer says something you don’t like about a logo, couldn’t you?

Yes, &quot;all of that&quot; can always be said, but were the designer&#039;s initial criticisms any less facile? Post any logo--whether designed by an amateur or Paul Rand--and sooner or later someone will point out something that he would have done better. I admit that I enjoy criticizing as much as anyone else: it&#039;s easy, quick, and makes me feel better about myself. This is the first time I&#039;ve felt compelled to come to someone&#039;s defense, not because I&#039;m one of those people who says, &quot;If you don&#039;t have anything nice to say, don&#039;t say anything at all&quot;, but because I think some of the criticism has been too facile.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris,</p>
<p>&gt;&gt;Maybe I’m wrong. I hope so. But your comment seems to imply that people here aren’t considering the client or the audience before making their points. That seems like an unfair assumption. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if people here have considered the client or the audience before making their points or not, but do you, Chris, mean to imply that any of us has given them as much consideration as Pentagram has? I&#8217;d be willing to bet that Pentragram spent a bit more time thinking about this design than your or I, and in that time they probably found a legitimate reason to make the design look the way it does. I believe the &#8216;S&#8217; was made to resemble some specific object, as a few other commentors have suggested. And notice how the horizontal join is parallel to the terminals: I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s coincidental. Is it a beautiful logo? Not particularly. Could it be improved? Probably. But I think anyone who gave it more than twenty seconds of consideration would hesitate to suggest that it&#8217;s amateurish or mistaken.</p>
<p>&gt;&gt;Besides, you could say all of that any time a designer says something you don’t like about a logo, couldn’t you?</p>
<p>Yes, &#8220;all of that&#8221; can always be said, but were the designer&#8217;s initial criticisms any less facile? Post any logo&#8211;whether designed by an amateur or Paul Rand&#8211;and sooner or later someone will point out something that he would have done better. I admit that I enjoy criticizing as much as anyone else: it&#8217;s easy, quick, and makes me feel better about myself. This is the first time I&#8217;ve felt compelled to come to someone&#8217;s defense, not because I&#8217;m one of those people who says, &#8220;If you don&#8217;t have anything nice to say, don&#8217;t say anything at all&#8221;, but because I think some of the criticism has been too facile.</p>
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		<title>By: Shawn</title>
		<link>http://www.logodesignlove.com/stanmore-implants-brand-identity/comment-page-1#comment-12391</link>
		<dc:creator>Shawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Mar 2010 05:40:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I agree that the overall mark has some craftsmanship issues, conventional wisdom would confer that it is in fact a calculated shape and defiintion. My main issue is with the font usage and kerning. Overall the way the &quot;S&quot; and the &quot; I&quot; align feels awkward and unpolished. 

To be fair, I am not aware of this industry or audience and therefore I am not educated as to if this mark has more education than it shows. 

Overall, I think it could be much stronger, but it still works a professional and clean mark.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I agree that the overall mark has some craftsmanship issues, conventional wisdom would confer that it is in fact a calculated shape and defiintion. My main issue is with the font usage and kerning. Overall the way the &#8220;S&#8221; and the &#8221; I&#8221; align feels awkward and unpolished. </p>
<p>To be fair, I am not aware of this industry or audience and therefore I am not educated as to if this mark has more education than it shows. </p>
<p>Overall, I think it could be much stronger, but it still works a professional and clean mark.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.logodesignlove.com/stanmore-implants-brand-identity/comment-page-1#comment-12369</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Mar 2010 09:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LogoForge,

Maybe I&#039;m wrong. I hope so. But your comment seems to imply that people here aren&#039;t considering the client or the audience before making their points. That seems like an unfair assumption. Besides, you could say all of that any time a designer says something you don&#039;t like about a logo, couldn&#039;t you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LogoForge,</p>
<p>Maybe I&#8217;m wrong. I hope so. But your comment seems to imply that people here aren&#8217;t considering the client or the audience before making their points. That seems like an unfair assumption. Besides, you could say all of that any time a designer says something you don&#8217;t like about a logo, couldn&#8217;t you?</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://www.logodesignlove.com/stanmore-implants-brand-identity/comment-page-1#comment-12363</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Mar 2010 07:57:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think you could call this logo boring considering the nature of the business and what they do. Thumbs up for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think you could call this logo boring considering the nature of the business and what they do. Thumbs up for me.</p>
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		<title>By: LogoForge</title>
		<link>http://www.logodesignlove.com/stanmore-implants-brand-identity/comment-page-1#comment-12348</link>
		<dc:creator>LogoForge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2010 22:01:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After reading the comments above, I am reminded of an earlier post &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.logodesignlove.com/paula-scher-identity-forum&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;What they don’t teach you about identity design in design schools&quot;&lt;/a&gt;, which began, &quot;One of the most often repeated refrains on design blogs, in the critique of a new logo, is &#039;Any design student could do a better job&#039;.&quot; and went on to say, &quot;Identity design, for any organization containing more than three people, is the act of diplomatically negotiating personal egos, tastes, and aspirations of various invested individuals against their business needs, their pre-formed expectations, and the constraints of the market place.&quot; 

In the case of the Stanmore logo, I imagine the designers were more intent on satisfying their client than on satisfying other designers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading the comments above, I am reminded of an earlier post <a href="http://www.logodesignlove.com/paula-scher-identity-forum" rel="nofollow">&#8220;What they don’t teach you about identity design in design schools&#8221;</a>, which began, &#8220;One of the most often repeated refrains on design blogs, in the critique of a new logo, is &#8216;Any design student could do a better job&#8217;.&#8221; and went on to say, &#8220;Identity design, for any organization containing more than three people, is the act of diplomatically negotiating personal egos, tastes, and aspirations of various invested individuals against their business needs, their pre-formed expectations, and the constraints of the market place.&#8221; </p>
<p>In the case of the Stanmore logo, I imagine the designers were more intent on satisfying their client than on satisfying other designers.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.logodesignlove.com/stanmore-implants-brand-identity/comment-page-1#comment-12322</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Mar 2010 12:39:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Boring logos always look cooler on a piece of metal.</description>
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		<title>By: Lech</title>
		<link>http://www.logodesignlove.com/stanmore-implants-brand-identity/comment-page-1#comment-12292</link>
		<dc:creator>Lech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 19:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately, I am more than disappointed with execution of this logo.. Idea is somewhere in designer&#039;s head. But big minus for such a trivial mistake... Even junior designers wouldn&#039;t make such work. For a simplicity a small plus...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, I am more than disappointed with execution of this logo.. Idea is somewhere in designer&#8217;s head. But big minus for such a trivial mistake&#8230; Even junior designers wouldn&#8217;t make such work. For a simplicity a small plus&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Neil Kowalewski</title>
		<link>http://www.logodesignlove.com/stanmore-implants-brand-identity/comment-page-1#comment-12290</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil Kowalewski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 19:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, intentional or not, this mark looks like a do-it-yourself attempt by a well-meaning fan of MS Publisher. There&#039;s elegance in simplicity, but this comes across as amateurish.  That&#039;s my four ha&#039; pennies on the topic.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, intentional or not, this mark looks like a do-it-yourself attempt by a well-meaning fan of MS Publisher. There&#8217;s elegance in simplicity, but this comes across as amateurish.  That&#8217;s my four ha&#8217; pennies on the topic.  :)</p>
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		<title>By: sara tack</title>
		<link>http://www.logodesignlove.com/stanmore-implants-brand-identity/comment-page-1#comment-12288</link>
		<dc:creator>sara tack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 16:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with James that it should have been constructed like a letterform, but not just the white S. I am also bothered by the balance of the black S. The right spine of the S is tangent with the top right terminal and as a result feels top heavy.  The spine could have been pulled out a little to optically correct the weight. Less noticeable is the same problem on the opposite side.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with James that it should have been constructed like a letterform, but not just the white S. I am also bothered by the balance of the black S. The right spine of the S is tangent with the top right terminal and as a result feels top heavy.  The spine could have been pulled out a little to optically correct the weight. Less noticeable is the same problem on the opposite side.</p>
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