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		<title>By: Amanda Vlahakis</title>
		<link>http://www.logodesignlove.com/the-oak-bar-logo/comment-page-1#comment-5922</link>
		<dc:creator>Amanda Vlahakis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 19:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it works well in context but that the monogram is better than the actual logo itself which is let down by notable flaws such as the out of place T already mentioned.

The monogram is used extensively yet to me there seems to be insufficient visual links between the monogram and the logo design.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it works well in context but that the monogram is better than the actual logo itself which is let down by notable flaws such as the out of place T already mentioned.</p>
<p>The monogram is used extensively yet to me there seems to be insufficient visual links between the monogram and the logo design.</p>
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		<title>By: David Airey</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Airey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 18:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Definitely a mixed reception overall, and zwetan, I&#039;m not too sure what font was used.

Abbas,

If every visitor&#039;s wearing those sandals, the carpet should be fine. :)

Thanks David, Panasit, Al. Always good to read what you&#039;re thinking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Definitely a mixed reception overall, and zwetan, I&#8217;m not too sure what font was used.</p>
<p>Abbas,</p>
<p>If every visitor&#8217;s wearing those sandals, the carpet should be fine. :)</p>
<p>Thanks David, Panasit, Al. Always good to read what you&#8217;re thinking.</p>
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		<title>By: Al Woods</title>
		<link>http://www.logodesignlove.com/the-oak-bar-logo/comment-page-1#comment-5660</link>
		<dc:creator>Al Woods</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 09:08:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well going off first glances I quite liked it, I do like a bit of Blackletter. Thing is, as mentioned before, the &#039;T&#039; is soooo wrong and if this is clearly obvious to us then surely Pentagram would have noticed that too? I love what they&#039;ve almost done, the monogram is a nice touch and looks really nice on all the little accents (pins, ties...etc), plus, the copper is really nice.

The problem(s) I have with it, other than the &#039;T&#039;, is that the leaves on the monogram seem a little blobby and the so-called redrawn logotype is pretty much identical to the red example on their blog.

I know pattern is everywhere at the moment but a nice, delicate yet strong use of a bespoke repeat pattern would have worked nicely in this instance. Maybe even just a section of pattern rather than an all over repeat.

Kinda just looks like all of the current bar identities around at the moment, nice, safe, but lacking balls and soul.

&lt;em&gt;Al Woods&#039;s last blog post...&lt;a href=&quot;http://alwoodscreativemedia.blogspot.com/2009/03/let-it-reyn.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Let it Reyn.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well going off first glances I quite liked it, I do like a bit of Blackletter. Thing is, as mentioned before, the &#8216;T&#8217; is soooo wrong and if this is clearly obvious to us then surely Pentagram would have noticed that too? I love what they&#8217;ve almost done, the monogram is a nice touch and looks really nice on all the little accents (pins, ties&#8230;etc), plus, the copper is really nice.</p>
<p>The problem(s) I have with it, other than the &#8216;T&#8217;, is that the leaves on the monogram seem a little blobby and the so-called redrawn logotype is pretty much identical to the red example on their blog.</p>
<p>I know pattern is everywhere at the moment but a nice, delicate yet strong use of a bespoke repeat pattern would have worked nicely in this instance. Maybe even just a section of pattern rather than an all over repeat.</p>
<p>Kinda just looks like all of the current bar identities around at the moment, nice, safe, but lacking balls and soul.</p>
<p><em>Al Woods&#8217;s last blog post&#8230;<a href="http://alwoodscreativemedia.blogspot.com/2009/03/let-it-reyn.html" rel="nofollow">Let it Reyn.</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: Panasit</title>
		<link>http://www.logodesignlove.com/the-oak-bar-logo/comment-page-1#comment-5607</link>
		<dc:creator>Panasit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 09:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The identity is very beautiful, as expected from Pentagram. But, even though they have selected a style that very well suits the client, that doesn&#039;t mean the particular typeface they used here is the best choice. I&#039;m not a fan of slim O. The one used here looks more like a zero (0) And as a result when combined into a logotype, both the T and the B overpowered it. 

I don&#039;t know, I&#039;m sure there are hundreds of this Gutenberg Bible old style typeface out there (sorry, I don&#039;t know the exact term) with better letter O.

I love the monogram. And that neck tie shown at Pentagram blog. I want one, lol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The identity is very beautiful, as expected from Pentagram. But, even though they have selected a style that very well suits the client, that doesn&#8217;t mean the particular typeface they used here is the best choice. I&#8217;m not a fan of slim O. The one used here looks more like a zero (0) And as a result when combined into a logotype, both the T and the B overpowered it. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know, I&#8217;m sure there are hundreds of this Gutenberg Bible old style typeface out there (sorry, I don&#8217;t know the exact term) with better letter O.</p>
<p>I love the monogram. And that neck tie shown at Pentagram blog. I want one, lol.</p>
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		<title>By: zwetan</title>
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		<dc:creator>zwetan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 13:52:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

would you know the name of the typeface/font they are using by any chance ?

unless it&#039;s a custom one ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>would you know the name of the typeface/font they are using by any chance ?</p>
<p>unless it&#8217;s a custom one ?</p>
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		<title>By: Abbas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Abbas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 13:22:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How long before the white &#039;O&#039; and the beige carpet become on colour?

&lt;em&gt;Abbas&#039;s last blog post...&lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/designsheffield/statuses/1285749684&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;designsheffield: a friend has borrowed me the beatles anthology on dvd. just watched the first dvd. it&#039;s A-mazing.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How long before the white &#8216;O&#8217; and the beige carpet become on colour?</p>
<p><em>Abbas&#8217;s last blog post&#8230;<a href="http://twitter.com/designsheffield/statuses/1285749684" rel="nofollow">designsheffield: a friend has borrowed me the beatles anthology on dvd. just watched the first dvd. it&#8217;s A-mazing.</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: David Morin</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Morin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 18:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to admit, I am not familiar with the original project objectives (I failed in researching on this one) and the creative process that lead to that but I am a bit disappointed by Pentagram this time (I usually like a lot what Pentagram comes up with as I am also a fan of Siegel + Gale)... But I think the quality of the shots for the different applications of the monogram is what&#039;s most exiting about this project.... sorry..........

&lt;em&gt;David Morin&#039;s last blog post...&lt;a href=&quot;http://getapowerplay.blogspot.com/2009/02/50-dollar-logo-experiment.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The 50 Dollar Logo Experiment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to admit, I am not familiar with the original project objectives (I failed in researching on this one) and the creative process that lead to that but I am a bit disappointed by Pentagram this time (I usually like a lot what Pentagram comes up with as I am also a fan of Siegel + Gale)&#8230; But I think the quality of the shots for the different applications of the monogram is what&#8217;s most exiting about this project&#8230;. sorry&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p><em>David Morin&#8217;s last blog post&#8230;<a href="http://getapowerplay.blogspot.com/2009/02/50-dollar-logo-experiment.html" rel="nofollow">The 50 Dollar Logo Experiment</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: David Airey</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Airey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 12:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the differing opinions, everyone — always healthy.

To be honest, I&#039;m not keen on the window (as David mentions), and think it&#039;d look better with less &#039;O&#039;s. Compare it to the stationery, which to me appears much more classy.

As for the carpet, try not to let the dodgey-looking sandal impair your judgement. It&#039;s an improvement on the window because there&#039;s less contrast, giving a more subtle impression.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the differing opinions, everyone — always healthy.</p>
<p>To be honest, I&#8217;m not keen on the window (as David mentions), and think it&#8217;d look better with less &#8216;O&#8217;s. Compare it to the stationery, which to me appears much more classy.</p>
<p>As for the carpet, try not to let the dodgey-looking sandal impair your judgement. It&#8217;s an improvement on the window because there&#8217;s less contrast, giving a more subtle impression.</p>
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		<title>By: roland</title>
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		<dc:creator>roland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 04:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David that was my first impression also, that &quot;T&quot; sticks out like a sore thumb. If anything I could understand emphasis on the &quot;O&quot; not the &quot;T&quot;. I am having a hard time finding what&#039;s special about this logo too, other than the fact they spent money placing it in a carpet pattern.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David that was my first impression also, that &#8220;T&#8221; sticks out like a sore thumb. If anything I could understand emphasis on the &#8220;O&#8221; not the &#8220;T&#8221;. I am having a hard time finding what&#8217;s special about this logo too, other than the fact they spent money placing it in a carpet pattern.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Fouty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Fouty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 17:31:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love Pentagram and their style, always have. However, when you go to Pentagram it seems like you are usually looking for something new and fresh... something that is a little outside the box. I still like the identity, but it does feel a little traditional.

However, maybe that&#039;s what they are going for. Oak Bar is obviously proud of their tradition, hence the &quot;since 1907&quot; tag. Maybe they are aiming to present themselves as established and traditional.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love Pentagram and their style, always have. However, when you go to Pentagram it seems like you are usually looking for something new and fresh&#8230; something that is a little outside the box. I still like the identity, but it does feel a little traditional.</p>
<p>However, maybe that&#8217;s what they are going for. Oak Bar is obviously proud of their tradition, hence the &#8220;since 1907&#8243; tag. Maybe they are aiming to present themselves as established and traditional.</p>
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